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this time on defense. kevin kolb planted by robert quinn. one of three sacks for quinn last night. the rams did sack kolb nine times in the game. rams up 10-3. bradford scanning, scanning. finds a wide open chris gibbons for the touchdown. the rookie strolls in 51 yards. bradford only completed seven passes in the game. two of them went for touchdowns. that one put the rams up 17-3. that would be the final. cardinals unable to muster any offense at all. they fall to 4-1. rams now above the .500 mark at 3-2. texas and falcons now the nfl's only undefeated teams. >>> in baseball, where in perhaps the least surprising move of the season, bobby valentine was let go from the red sox after one season as manager. not a lot of cards in the deck for bobby, granted. their record, 69-93. the worst since 1965. gave the red sox their first last place finish in the division since john henry and tom warner took over ownership 11 years ago. valentine sparred with everyone from players to reporters. he now has the distinction of being the first red sox manager fired after one since since 1934 when
this time on defense. kevin kolb planted by robert quinn. one of three sacks for quinn last night. the rams did sack kolb nine times in the game. rams up 10-3. bradford scanning, scanning. finds a wide open chris gibbons for the touchdown. the rookie strolls in 51 yards. bradford only completed seven passes in the game. two of them went for touchdowns. that one put the rams up 17-3. that would be the final. cardinals unable to muster any offense at all. they fall to 4-1. rams now above the .500...
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he has a challenge to come in and not look scared or defensive. he has to be cool and calm and confident and own the space. that is the most important thing for him. if he looks skiddish. those optics will be the most devastating thing for him. you would think would be about the pressure would be on the incumbent to defend the last four years in office. but in this debate, it is clear that 100% is on how does mitt romney handle the 47% question? >> i agree with crystal to put in other terms the undecided voters are sitting with their back toward the stage. the voice and he has to be strong and have an answer. the problem he has is which every way he turns he loses a piece of the argument. ro romney is going to lose a piece where he turns. one that he has used before, is to say look, i care about the 100%. look at what i did in massachusetts with romney care. if he give that is answer, he loses the strength of the argument. but i think he has no choice. i think he has to say that like the president, when the president in 2008 was overheard at a fun
he has a challenge to come in and not look scared or defensive. he has to be cool and calm and confident and own the space. that is the most important thing for him. if he looks skiddish. those optics will be the most devastating thing for him. you would think would be about the pressure would be on the incumbent to defend the last four years in office. but in this debate, it is clear that 100% is on how does mitt romney handle the 47% question? >> i agree with crystal to put in other...
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he came in with the pro football players call prevent defense, in basketball it's four corners, fight the clock, pass the ball. and it didn't work. what puzzled me the most is he had opening after opening to dispute what the governor was saying, compared to what he said before, didn't take any of the openings. i'm really puzzled by his performance. he seemed aloof. he'd rather be in a dentist chair than where he was and that translates to body language and facial expressions. i just don't -- can't say what happened to him. all credit to governor romney. got to give him credit. he prepared well. he's in command of what he had. now, question is, does it make a difference? my guess is that it may make some difference. the historical record shows, particularly with first debates when there's more than one, the challenger does well, gets a bump up in a point and a half, two points in the polls. i think this time it may be different. i'll say this, i'm not saying that barack obama's going to lose. but if he loses, we'll look back on last night as the night the tide turned. >> governor rende
he came in with the pro football players call prevent defense, in basketball it's four corners, fight the clock, pass the ball. and it didn't work. what puzzled me the most is he had opening after opening to dispute what the governor was saying, compared to what he said before, didn't take any of the openings. i'm really puzzled by his performance. he seemed aloof. he'd rather be in a dentist chair than where he was and that translates to body language and facial expressions. i just don't --...
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i mean, even before that, when engine charlie wilson who eisenhower named to defense secretary, said what's good for gm is good for america, and vice versa, he was ridiculed because most people understood that what is good for the big corporation in terms of profits is not necessarily good for workers, even though at that time gm was unionized and engine charlie's words more likely the fact then than they are right now. the fact is for the last 30 years america has seen corporations do better and better and better and yet the median wage has gone absolutely nowhere, adjusted for inflation. most people are more insecure in terms of their jobs and their benefits are drying up. corporate profits should not necessarily come at the expense of workers but, in fact, that is exactly what has happened and the bain framework, the bain strategy is at the center of this strategy overall. >> harvest is a very interesting word that he used. it's kind of like lingo, not a few years ago, you know, the term "out of the box." i remember back in the '80s when farming wasn't too bad and a certain player
i mean, even before that, when engine charlie wilson who eisenhower named to defense secretary, said what's good for gm is good for america, and vice versa, he was ridiculed because most people understood that what is good for the big corporation in terms of profits is not necessarily good for workers, even though at that time gm was unionized and engine charlie's words more likely the fact then than they are right now. the fact is for the last 30 years america has seen corporations do better...
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romney's best performances is when he caps a tough defense with a good line. like these against gingrich. >> i spent 25 years in business. if i had a business executive saying they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. did you check your own investments? you also have investments in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> and romney is at his worst when forced to respond to a rebuttal when he's interrupted or when he feels rules have been violated. he saw it in the 2002 debates against shannon o'brien, in 1994 against kennedy and of course, in these primaries. >> mr. romney, the kennedys are not in public service to make money. we have paid too high a price in our commitment to the public service. >> senator kennedy, your question for mr. romney. >> mr. romney -- >> i'm sorry. was it my turn to respond. >> i was going to end it there. >> my suggestion about my comments in utah. let me complete it and you can ask me. >> do you have a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking and i suggest if you want to b
romney's best performances is when he caps a tough defense with a good line. like these against gingrich. >> i spent 25 years in business. if i had a business executive saying they wanted to spend a few hundred billion dollars to put a colony on the moon, i'd say you're fired. did you check your own investments? you also have investments in fannie mae and freddie mac. >> and romney is at his worst when forced to respond to a rebuttal when he's interrupted or when he feels rules have...
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as we know in politics as well as in football, sometimes when you have a defense, you can give up an easy, quick score. that seemed it to happen last night. you regarded about the lack of fight for president obama. i don't think it was surprising that mitt romney had a good debate performance. a lot of us expected that. i think what surprised everyone was president obama didn't seem up and as energized as mitt romney was. >> i think you're absolutely right on that. this jobs report tomorrow, how might this factor in depending on the information made public? >> right. it was a month ago after the republican convention and after the democratic conventions that republicans were looking to the jobs report to change the subject. now democrats are trying to do the exact same thing. a little note of caution. even though it was a tepid jobs report last time around, that really didn't help mitt romney. if it's a better than expected number, a lot of the commentary is still about last night's debate. >> we'll see what happens in the next 24. thanks, mark. instant polls show mitt romney was the
as we know in politics as well as in football, sometimes when you have a defense, you can give up an easy, quick score. that seemed it to happen last night. you regarded about the lack of fight for president obama. i don't think it was surprising that mitt romney had a good debate performance. a lot of us expected that. i think what surprised everyone was president obama didn't seem up and as energized as mitt romney was. >> i think you're absolutely right on that. this jobs report...
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. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched this debate. did either candidate gain any ground in your upon? how
. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different...
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a $2 trillion increase in defense spending. we don't know the tax policy and i think we know what it is and he won't make cuts to education that's what we learned about this, in theory, fiscally daub responsible person. i don't know how it was on tv but the substance of this where you say one thing in one place and another inning in another place won't hold up. >> stay on that line. did you see inconsistency nb romney's position? >> what i saw was a mitt romney who came prepared to have a conversation with the president was clearly not prepared to have. we can talk about the degree to which there may have been inconsistency there but, look, this is a debate, one on up with. if my on the is not going to call me out on something that he thinks is inconsistent. it's great for you to do it, chris, after the fact but the president of the united states whos has governed the country for four years and tonight was his night to look the american people in the eye to say with substance not only what he was going to do for the next four b
a $2 trillion increase in defense spending. we don't know the tax policy and i think we know what it is and he won't make cuts to education that's what we learned about this, in theory, fiscally daub responsible person. i don't know how it was on tv but the substance of this where you say one thing in one place and another inning in another place won't hold up. >> stay on that line. did you see inconsistency nb romney's position? >> what i saw was a mitt romney who came prepared to...
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court reporters have seen high priced defense lawyers deliver brilliant closing arguments. court reporters don't even say who won. they wait, they wait hours sometimes days for the jury to vote and then tell them who won. court reporters see lawyers with the best argument and the most engaging style lose cases every day and they see the opposite happen every day. frequently juries will tell court reporters they didn't care about the testimony that the news media thought was the most important thing. they based their decision on something else that was said or not said. hanging around courtrooms guessing what juries are going to do is a humbling experience. i think you should watch these debates the way you should watch a trial. when the lawyers make their opening statements in court you shouldn't think one of them just won. we are going to hear from a couple of witnesses next week. and then we'll hear the final arguments on october 22nd. and then you should wait 15 days just 15 days and find out who won, won the debates right here, at this hour on november 6th when we repor
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suppose he surprises everybody and doesn't play defense. he doesn't try to handle his opponent and clinch, that he really goes and tries to put him away. and i think that's the significanti i significanting question. how does romney deal with the fact that he has no spontaneity? no ability to deal with the unexpected? how does he deal with that in the debate for an hour and a half? so will obama go after the guy, not play defense, not finesse the guy, knock him out and end this thing. and will the other guy be able to deal with the unexpected, which perhaps will be obama coming after him, not him coming after obama. >> chris, when you talk about the president potentially going after mitt romney, do you mean in terms of stylistic aggression, or do you means in terms of trying to nail him as a flip-flopper or going really aggressively against his policies. which do you mean? >> i would say this. you are promising something new. you keep saying i've got something new. everything you've said sounds like what we got rid of because we had a disas
suppose he surprises everybody and doesn't play defense. he doesn't try to handle his opponent and clinch, that he really goes and tries to put him away. and i think that's the significanti i significanting question. how does romney deal with the fact that he has no spontaneity? no ability to deal with the unexpected? how does he deal with that in the debate for an hour and a half? so will obama go after the guy, not play defense, not finesse the guy, knock him out and end this thing. and will...
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that just gets us back to the original defense of what it was that todd akin said. roy blount and the national republican senate committee try to get back in there they are putting themselves back in the debate. >> rachel maddow, tonight, of course, as always, at 9:00 on msnbc. and next week special time 8:00 for our prime time coverage. >> looking forward to it. >> thank you. >> thanks, andrea. >> and just moments ago, i spoke with senator john kerry about his role playing mitt romney in president obama's debate preparation for wednesday. >> how do you get into the head of mitt romney and how do you prepare to play him with president obama? >> oh, andrea, i'm -- you know, i'm just going to listen to what he's saying but i'm not going to talk much about that process. i think it's better left to the candidates to resolve when they actually debate. >> well, the romney team, beth myers put out a memo really lowering or trying to lower expectations saying that president obama is such a great communicator, such a great debater, that -- >> yeah. >> had all this experience
that just gets us back to the original defense of what it was that todd akin said. roy blount and the national republican senate committee try to get back in there they are putting themselves back in the debate. >> rachel maddow, tonight, of course, as always, at 9:00 on msnbc. and next week special time 8:00 for our prime time coverage. >> looking forward to it. >> thank you. >> thanks, andrea. >> and just moments ago, i spoke with senator john kerry about his...
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is this the defense mechanism knowing he has a terrible record of shipping jobs? >> no doubt about it. this is out of the playbook. if you are weak, you attack for the same reason. that's what he is doing. this opponent that president obama is not at all weak on the issue. he is very, very strong on the issue and the republicans in the house of representatives are atrocious on dealing with china. there example after example. boehner and the republicans refuse to take up the currency issue. when the democrats controlled the house, we passed a chinese currency bill that would penalize china. boehner refuses to take it up. tax policy is another example. the big happens to be what you so well pointed out in your ads that has to do with making it in america and rebuilding the american base that we can do with good wise public policy. >> has president obama been doing a good job going after china on unfair trade practices? is it having an effect? were there 1,000 jobs saved? that of course is what is being reported. do you believe that? >> that and more. the president w
is this the defense mechanism knowing he has a terrible record of shipping jobs? >> no doubt about it. this is out of the playbook. if you are weak, you attack for the same reason. that's what he is doing. this opponent that president obama is not at all weak on the issue. he is very, very strong on the issue and the republicans in the house of representatives are atrocious on dealing with china. there example after example. boehner and the republicans refuse to take up the currency...
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what we saw him unveil in defense of the tax cuts on wednesday night was identical to the bush defense of the tax cuts which gave paul krugman an aneurysm writing two clumolumns week saying this is bs. george bush would say are you kidding? cut taxes for the wealthy that's not what i'm interested in doing. >> sort of the explanation of mitt romney is more what andrew sullivan has said, that he's just a salesman. so if he's in front of audience a, the sell is this. if he's in front of audience b, the sell is that and he's doing marketing proposals for whatever audience is in front of them because the real mitt romney is just a businessman and willing to sell the product to whoever it is, whether left, right, thought of being an ultraliberal would get him to be president he would say that. i just need the 51% i need, get me what i need. >> now he cares about the 100% and channeling the specter of h.w. bush and adopting the trickle down government line which to me, howard, you can explain this to everybody, to me that was do i end up with the department of homeland security in my spare be
what we saw him unveil in defense of the tax cuts on wednesday night was identical to the bush defense of the tax cuts which gave paul krugman an aneurysm writing two clumolumns week saying this is bs. george bush would say are you kidding? cut taxes for the wealthy that's not what i'm interested in doing. >> sort of the explanation of mitt romney is more what andrew sullivan has said, that he's just a salesman. so if he's in front of audience a, the sell is this. if he's in front of...
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budget, something the defense -- the defense bth is something mitt romney wants to increase, something they're not even asking for. >> that's right. he's asking for $2 trillion beyond what the pentagon has asked for and as smart as he and paul ryan are, they act like that's the answer to making sure we take care of veterans. as you know, the veterans piece of the pie is over here, the defense budget is over here. and the paul ryan budget, the romney/ryan budget would cut veterans affairs funding by $11 billion in the first year. look, we're a nation that has been in war for ten years, one of which will be our longest war, only less than 1% of our population is serving in those two wars. it seems as though mitt romney and paul ryan are more interested in making sure that 0.1% of our population gets a massive tax cut than making sure we honor our commitment to those who served in iraq and afghanistan over the last decade representing less than 1% of our population. it's a matter of values and what you value. look, these are honorable, decent men, but they seem to value making sure that t
budget, something the defense -- the defense bth is something mitt romney wants to increase, something they're not even asking for. >> that's right. he's asking for $2 trillion beyond what the pentagon has asked for and as smart as he and paul ryan are, they act like that's the answer to making sure we take care of veterans. as you know, the veterans piece of the pie is over here, the defense budget is over here. and the paul ryan budget, the romney/ryan budget would cut veterans affairs...
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put the president on the defensive. >> let me bring in jason chaffitz from utah. the question about the 47%. we saw in our "wall street journal" poll. talk about things that make people feel one way or another about the candidate. this has had a very negative effect. this statement mitt romney made on the voting public, so how does he answer that question about the 47%? because to say that i want to be the president for the 100% clearly has not resognated. >> well, look, mitt romney was the very first person to say he wasn't very eloquent in the way he said that, but i think when he can look the president in the eye, the american people in the eye and say he's taking on this role and trying to become the president of the united states because he wants us all to succeed, people are going to have to judge for themselves. that's the mitt romney i know. that's why i think mitt romney's running. not to get the 1% to move ahead, but so that everybody can move ahead. create economic opportunity in this country. >> it does seem, based on the video and the video alone, the
put the president on the defensive. >> let me bring in jason chaffitz from utah. the question about the 47%. we saw in our "wall street journal" poll. talk about things that make people feel one way or another about the candidate. this has had a very negative effect. this statement mitt romney made on the voting public, so how does he answer that question about the 47%? because to say that i want to be the president for the 100% clearly has not resognated. >> well, look,...
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once again, this relentless defense and protection of the rich. and secondly, i think last night showed the american people and the middle class that mitt romney has a secret plan to eliminate the one tax deduction that keeps the middle class in their homes. and that's the deduction for mortgage interest and taxes. he says he's going to lower tax rates but eliminate corporate tax loopholes and personal tax loopholes. i think he has a secret plan to eliminate that tax critical to the middle class. >> do you think that's what viewers walked away thinking? >> i think they walked away thinking mitt romney would be a great used car salesman, but the policies he's articulating will get us right back into the mess that president obama has been working so hard to dig us out of. >> i suspect many walked away last night feeling a bit confused, maybe a bit bored by the technical language and lack of passion. and they are possibly asking the question around the world that many are, which is why can't these guys get together to hammer out a fiscal solution? be
once again, this relentless defense and protection of the rich. and secondly, i think last night showed the american people and the middle class that mitt romney has a secret plan to eliminate the one tax deduction that keeps the middle class in their homes. and that's the deduction for mortgage interest and taxes. he says he's going to lower tax rates but eliminate corporate tax loopholes and personal tax loopholes. i think he has a secret plan to eliminate that tax critical to the middle...
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they need to take -- >> what's the best defense? >> good offense. >> i would recommend the president. why did the cavalry leave the fort to fight the indians? do you know why? >> why. >> they're cavalry. thank you. >>> coming up, we have a new scoreboard. not like in the old days but spinners will be there. let's watch the power of the tweeter, the twitter, what's going to happen? we'll have people talking about real life, in time, while it's actually happening telling us who's winning this thing and which candidate did a better job framing the argument, deflecting criticism. we'll look at body language, too. how they stand, what they look like. caught on tape, running mate's edition yesterday. the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me a
they need to take -- >> what's the best defense? >> good offense. >> i would recommend the president. why did the cavalry leave the fort to fight the indians? do you know why? >> why. >> they're cavalry. thank you. >>> coming up, we have a new scoreboard. not like in the old days but spinners will be there. let's watch the power of the tweeter, the twitter, what's going to happen? we'll have people talking about real life, in time, while it's actually...
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chris, when have you seen the prevent defense work? never. >> richard nixon tried it and richard nixon got blown away. anyway, the president seeped to have regained a bit of a his fighting spirit today. good for him. here he was at a campaign event right there in denver. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage said last night he didn't know anything about that. governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> the trouble is 58 million people were just told by niel n nielsen, 58 million, the preliminary estimate watched last night, that was an audience we'll probably never see again, and he now -- >> and probably 2 million, chris, 2 million will see what he said today. can you imagine if he had said on stage last night
chris, when have you seen the prevent defense work? never. >> richard nixon tried it and richard nixon got blown away. anyway, the president seeped to have regained a bit of a his fighting spirit today. good for him. here he was at a campaign event right there in denver. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year...
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he had no defense. his only defense was i made free enterprise. he suddenly became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to those reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly those reagan democrats thought romney had understood them, had come from a family a lot like theirs and cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich, by the rim. >> there are big moments in everybody's campaign. and romney's 47% remark may be his. and todd akin is at the center. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason to look twice. the entirely new lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. his morning starts with arthritis pain. and two pills. afternoon's overhaul starts with more pain. more pills. triple checking hydraulics. the evening brings more pain. so, back to more pills. almost done, when... hang on. stan's doctor recommended aleve. it can keep pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is rudy. who switched to aleve. and two pills for a day free of pain. ♪ [ female annou
he had no defense. his only defense was i made free enterprise. he suddenly became the opposite of what ronald reagan was to those reagan democrats. rightly or wrongly those reagan democrats thought romney had understood them, had come from a family a lot like theirs and cared about them. it's okay to be rich. it's not okay to be the candidate of the rich, for the rich, by the rim. >> there are big moments in everybody's campaign. and romney's 47% remark may be his. and todd akin is at...
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spending. >> take a state like hawaii where defense issues are huge. so it totally repositioned the platform for women candidates. it really con founds a lot of expectations that you see the statisticians rely on in how to tailor messaging for certain candidates. i think it's fascinating and one of the things they're going to write about in this campaign season for years to come. we're going to learn about this in big ways. >> one of the things that strikes me is we talked about elizabeth warren a minute ago. she's in a close race. if she wins and beats scott brown, people are talking about her as a potential presidential candidate in 2016. when you look ahead to 2016 and you think about it, there is potential here on the democratic side for hillary clinton if she wants to run to clear the field. she will be an overwhelming favorite like we've never seen. you have a woman who is a huge favorite. if she doesn't run, we talk about elizabeth warren runs. hi kirsten hill brand, there's a lot of noise about that. amy from minnesota, word was put out at the
spending. >> take a state like hawaii where defense issues are huge. so it totally repositioned the platform for women candidates. it really con founds a lot of expectations that you see the statisticians rely on in how to tailor messaging for certain candidates. i think it's fascinating and one of the things they're going to write about in this campaign season for years to come. we're going to learn about this in big ways. >> one of the things that strikes me is we talked about...
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mitt romney is the defense lawyer here. he is going to say the prosecution, president obama, hasn't made his case and that his record isn't enough for re-election, and i'm not going to give you all the detail of what i'll do, what a romney presidency would mean. make your choice based on the president. that's the plan? >> no, no. listen, what the plan is that the public will have plenty of detail and information to be able to make a judgment on governor romney and what his plan is for the future. but let's look at what the president is saying as well. and you're right, david, in this respect. the president has had four years to lay this out, and now a campaign. and the president's just trying to run out the clock. he desperately wants to run out the clock with platitudes which sound nice, and i give him that. the president is very good at that. but in the end, i think that both sides have to look at this campaign and say, what are we going to lay out over the next 36 days? and i think that's really important. and i think go
mitt romney is the defense lawyer here. he is going to say the prosecution, president obama, hasn't made his case and that his record isn't enough for re-election, and i'm not going to give you all the detail of what i'll do, what a romney presidency would mean. make your choice based on the president. that's the plan? >> no, no. listen, what the plan is that the public will have plenty of detail and information to be able to make a judgment on governor romney and what his plan is for the...
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. >> the math is hard defense. good luck with that. >>> plus, todd akin goes from bad to worse. new comments from mr. legitimate rape have made him the poster child of the gop radical anti-women agenda. >>> also, republicans care a lot about voter fraud unless they are the ones doing it. we're calling them out for gross hypocrisy. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. a great clean doesn't have to take longer. i'm done. i'm gonna read one of these. i'm gonna read one of these! [ female announcer ] unlike sprays and dust rags, swiffer 360 duster's extender gets into hard-to-reach places without the hassle. so you can get unbelievable dust pickup in less time without missing a thing. i love that book. can you believe the twin did it? ♪ swiffer. great clean in less time. or your money back. who sells those remote control hel
. >> the math is hard defense. good luck with that. >>> plus, todd akin goes from bad to worse. new comments from mr. legitimate rape have made him the poster child of the gop radical anti-women agenda. >>> also, republicans care a lot about voter fraud unless they are the ones doing it. we're calling them out for gross hypocrisy. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this...
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you do know that defense and veterans are two different -- at some point it should be possible with 40 days left to say veterans have to be more than just an applause line. right? you don't just get to use them for a photo op like the decommissioned battleship you used as a backdrop when you introduced paul ryan inexplicably in front of a battleship, another time when you didn't mention the war. even if you're not willing to talk about the war we are in that you would be taking over, veterans are not a hypothetical construct. the way they're treated is not an esoteric consequence of how we feel about them as a nation or how much military spending we have which is how mitt romney described it today. 40 days out from the election with the israeli prime minister drawing an actual redline on a wiley coyote acme style bomb at the united nations today when talking about iran. 40 days out with the surge in afghanistan looking like it did the opposite of what it was supposed to do, 40 days out with "the new york times" reporting that the romney campaign's big national security legal idea is to
you do know that defense and veterans are two different -- at some point it should be possible with 40 days left to say veterans have to be more than just an applause line. right? you don't just get to use them for a photo op like the decommissioned battleship you used as a backdrop when you introduced paul ryan inexplicably in front of a battleship, another time when you didn't mention the war. even if you're not willing to talk about the war we are in that you would be taking over, veterans...
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he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too big. so if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama on "meet the press" before election day? >> there's 37 days left. so we'll stay in contact about it. >>> coming up, we talk more about the first debate. what are the stakes for both campaigns. the round table will get into it founder of the faith and freedom coalition, ralph reed, former democratic pennsylvania governor, ed rendell. the bbc's catty kay and nbc's chuck todd. here's what happened... i was talking to my best friend. i told her i wasn't feeling like myself... i had pain in my pelvic area... and bleeding that wasn't normal for me. she said i had to go to the doctor. turned out i had uterine cancer, a type of gynecologic cancer. i received treatment an
he's got a $5 trillion tax cut and nour $2 trillion in defense spending that our defense leaders say they don't need if he's not going to add to the deficit, the middle class better watch out because they're going to pay the burden if he's elected president, because the whole is just too big. so if he says he's not going to burden the middle class, then he's going to blow a hole in the deficit. >> will we see president obama on "meet the press" before election day? >>...
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the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. so
the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of...
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the president needs to do a full throated defense of his presidency and not allow governor romney to define his presidency for him. this helps significantly. >> and, chris, quickly do we hear mitt romney continue to say that president obama doesn't understand the economy? does this put him in a box? >> well, to some extent but governor romney is going to use his statistics to paint his picture and we saw that. and i think this is one of the things that i would, you know, strongly recommend to the obama campaign. romney was a blizzard of statistics in that debate but a lot of them weren't true. the president has the ability to use statistics to attack and undercut governor romney's arguments. he needs to go into the next debate. a lot of people are going to be watching given the last debate and he needs to go right at governor romney and completely destroy this notion that reinventing himself, let alone introducing and proposing the same policies are going to create a different outcome. he can definitely do that. we've seen that. >> right wing conservative talking points dying on this
the president needs to do a full throated defense of his presidency and not allow governor romney to define his presidency for him. this helps significantly. >> and, chris, quickly do we hear mitt romney continue to say that president obama doesn't understand the economy? does this put him in a box? >> well, to some extent but governor romney is going to use his statistics to paint his picture and we saw that. and i think this is one of the things that i would, you know, strongly...
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he needs to put obama on the defensive and needs to remake his image. i think he needs a long strategy through all the debates. i'm not sure he can do all he needs to do in one debate. >> it's so great to have both of you here. come back. thank you. >>> lockheed martin and other defense contractors agreed to a white house request not to give lay-off notices to employees days before the election in november. those companies are anticipating thousands of lay-offs because of defense budget cuts and they are required to give workers 60 days notice. it's highly unlikely any budget cuts will be decided on before the election. the administration argues that pink slips should not go out because of "uncertainty." republicans are expressing outrage saying the administration strong armed the industry to cover up job losses. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they
he needs to put obama on the defensive and needs to remake his image. i think he needs a long strategy through all the debates. i'm not sure he can do all he needs to do in one debate. >> it's so great to have both of you here. come back. thank you. >>> lockheed martin and other defense contractors agreed to a white house request not to give lay-off notices to employees days before the election in november. those companies are anticipating thousands of lay-offs because of defense...
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sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of the night was actually to be mhh and live to fight another day. it's not the greatest strategy i have ever heard but it's not a campaign-ending strategy. we've still got three more debates to go. the next one is next week and it's between joe biden and paul ryan. joe's not going to be afraid to throw some punks around and combat the deceptions about taxes, medicare, social security, and the rest. and the president himself has two more chances to meet romney on the debate field of battle. you can bet that the passive note scribbling guy that showed up last night is not going to show up for the next two. romney outperformed, obama underperformed. if nothing else there will be a natural regression to the mean. plus, the expectations for obama going in were way out of whack and now they've certa
sure, the president looked bored and defensive, but he didn't say anything sound bitable. he didn't sight, he didn't check his watch, didn't answer in detached and aloof fashion a question about somebody raining and killing his wife. he was not shocking, he was -- i suspect the goal of the night was actually to be mhh and live to fight another day. it's not the greatest strategy i have ever heard but it's not a campaign-ending strategy. we've still got three more debates to go. the next one is...
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this is the defensive marriage act signed by president clinton. it says for federal recognition, the marriages are only between men and women. the question is it fair, constitutional or discriminatory against gay couples. if it strikes it down, i doesn't say that states have to recognize gay marriages but where gay marriages have taken place, they have to uphold that. >> when will be we hear the arguments on it? >> october 10th. it's challenged by this white student, gable fisher from texas. the university has an interesting program, chuck. it grants admission automatic will toy the university of texas in austen for the top 10% of every high school class. the whole goal is racial diversity. that gets them some diversity. the question is whether they can take the extra tell to round out the race of the other applicants. >> it means it happens before the election, not the decision, and the argument and it means it will at least get into the presidential debate. pete williams. it's october 1st. where else is he going to be. >>> up next, florida, flor
this is the defensive marriage act signed by president clinton. it says for federal recognition, the marriages are only between men and women. the question is it fair, constitutional or discriminatory against gay couples. if it strikes it down, i doesn't say that states have to recognize gay marriages but where gay marriages have taken place, they have to uphold that. >> when will be we hear the arguments on it? >> october 10th. it's challenged by this white student, gable fisher...
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night, which is he can't pay for that $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires, and raise defense spend dgz 2 trillion to a level the pentagon hasn't even asked for without raising taxes on middle class families. they're refusing to specify what deductions they'd eliminate to pay for it. >> now, there have been factual questions about what the president said last night about social security, about deficit reduction, he claimed $4 trillion deficit reduction. he's double counting, there's a gym nick there, according to the nonpartisan committee for responsible federal budget because he talks about the savings of $1 trillion from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which were deficit financed to begin with. both sides were fudging, and both sides are guilty of fuzzy math. but in terms of sheer performance, the president seemed to have left it in the locker room, did he not prepare well enough? >> well, listen, i don't think we viewed this as a steel cage match. our goal with last night for the president to lay out his plans to restore economic security for the middle class
night, which is he can't pay for that $5 trillion tax cut for millionaires and billionaires, and raise defense spend dgz 2 trillion to a level the pentagon hasn't even asked for without raising taxes on middle class families. they're refusing to specify what deductions they'd eliminate to pay for it. >> now, there have been factual questions about what the president said last night about social security, about deficit reduction, he claimed $4 trillion deficit reduction. he's double...
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remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good performer and good guy. >> jonathan, thank you for being here. i was excited to talk about this and i interrupted you a lot, i'm sorry. it turns out we have an unfortunate scoop. and it is out of pennsylvania and that story is coming up next. stay with us. >>> before the big unaffordable news, on tuesday of this week, something big happened. on tuesday a pennsylvania judge ruled that voters don't need a voter id to vote in this year's election. voter rules that were going to dinnen franchise up to one in eight voters in that big swing state were put on hold. but whether or not voters don't participate in this election may depend in part on whether or not people believe that if they don't have eye driver's license or suitable id they shouldn't bother showing up to vote. in the real world it is a consequence of what people believe the law is in pennsylvania. before the ruling this week, when the law stated that you did need an id to vote. here is what votespa.com told voter
remember, he went into a preevent defense and sitting on his lead. he is a good performer and good guy. >> jonathan, thank you for being here. i was excited to talk about this and i interrupted you a lot, i'm sorry. it turns out we have an unfortunate scoop. and it is out of pennsylvania and that story is coming up next. stay with us. >>> before the big unaffordable news, on tuesday of this week, something big happened. on tuesday a pennsylvania judge ruled that voters don't need...
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, but where you're going to lead this country and then contrast that strongly and put romney on the defensive about the fact how can you actually tell the american people that the policies you support, which are the same that created this mess, are going to lead us to a different direction and then don't filibuster. i love the president, but boy, he has a tendency to go on and on in some of those questions and in a debate, that can get you in trouble. >> get in, get out. new polling is showing mitt romney has narrowed the gap. good news for him. in the last two weeks and your tips, you said the governor needs to show passion for the country and it people. what does he say to voters to do that because there is still the sting from that 47% remark that people are not walking away from that is resognating. >> one of the things we often had conversations with rick santorum about. he had no lack of passion on the stage. one of the things he did was leave everybody in a negative tone. with the statistics of where we are now. unemployment being high and poverty being high. and then just walk off and
, but where you're going to lead this country and then contrast that strongly and put romney on the defensive about the fact how can you actually tell the american people that the policies you support, which are the same that created this mess, are going to lead us to a different direction and then don't filibuster. i love the president, but boy, he has a tendency to go on and on in some of those questions and in a debate, that can get you in trouble. >> get in, get out. new polling is...
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i listened to my defense secretary. i listened to my secretary of state pip also listened to my generals. and at the end of the day, i went and visited arlington national cemetery. i went to walter reed. i saw the costs of war. and i made the best decision i could make at time, with plenty of input. but the most important thing to me was setting a deadline for our soldiers to come home, and that is happening. we are disengaging. but this question makes me wonder if you're suggesting that mitt romney would perhaps prefer that i not have sent troops into afghanistan, because he's been very vague on his own plans for afghanistan, and so far, i've seen a lot of saber rattling, chris. i'm not sure that i've seen a war that he doesn't like. i really would love to hear him answer what his plan for afghanistan truly is. >> fair enough. let's go to the tough question for governor romney. you supported the vietnam war. you were a protester, a student at stanford, for the war. i never heard of such a person. you were out there wit
i listened to my defense secretary. i listened to my secretary of state pip also listened to my generals. and at the end of the day, i went and visited arlington national cemetery. i went to walter reed. i saw the costs of war. and i made the best decision i could make at time, with plenty of input. but the most important thing to me was setting a deadline for our soldiers to come home, and that is happening. we are disengaging. but this question makes me wonder if you're suggesting that mitt...
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. >> did you ever have a defense attorney say to you you're not being ladylike there. you just did your job. >> good luck. >> you're qualified to be a senator and prove that this guy is not qualified for any position. thank you for joining us. >> thampgs so much. >> up next stephen colbert tackles the latest cry from the right. we just had the fox poll that says obama is ahead by 5. this is "hardball" a place for politics. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 your portfolio has tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 a better chance to g
. >> did you ever have a defense attorney say to you you're not being ladylike there. you just did your job. >> good luck. >> you're qualified to be a senator and prove that this guy is not qualified for any position. thank you for joining us. >> thampgs so much. >> up next stephen colbert tackles the latest cry from the right. we just had the fox poll that says obama is ahead by 5. this is "hardball" a place for politics. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk...
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. >> the nipping at the heels, we've talked about the offense versus defense. mitt romney was maybe getting back on his feet a little bit and then this comes along and not only is it not an effective tool, it's sort of -- in some ways, makes romney look like a chump, the fact that his own party thinks this is what they need to do. >> well, they need to be -- to win the election it's pretty clear. the president's advisors would tell you they need to be talking about the economy. they went after joe biden for his gaffe on saying the middle class has done poorly under the president, but i think, again, they're trying to do things in this tactical way that just hasn't worked for them so far and i think every day they're not having mitt romney out forcefully explaining what the president has done on the economy, is not a great day for them. now, he's in a better place than a lot of the pundits have suggested but i don't really think they have days to waste on things like this and the backlash against it was so strong. when drudge tees something up, even though he ti
. >> the nipping at the heels, we've talked about the offense versus defense. mitt romney was maybe getting back on his feet a little bit and then this comes along and not only is it not an effective tool, it's sort of -- in some ways, makes romney look like a chump, the fact that his own party thinks this is what they need to do. >> well, they need to be -- to win the election it's pretty clear. the president's advisors would tell you they need to be talking about the economy. they...
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. >> and the federal law called the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton. it says the federal government will recognize only conventional marriages, meaning no federal benefits in states where same-sex marriage is already equal. in the court did strike the law down, states would not be required to permit same-sex marriages but the federal government would have to recognize them where they're legal. craig, back to you. >> pete williams in washington. thanks so much for that let's switch gears to indiana and the senate race where things just got lot more interesting. a few months ago, tea party star, richard murdoch, defeated veteran republican senator richard luger. murdoch's campaign was built on framing dick luger as a rhino, a republican in name only. but guess who has gone rhino? you got it, it's murdoch. an apparent attempt to pander to moderate voters by scrapping the ultraconservative label and running toward the center. this includes suddenly coming out in support of parts of the president's health care plan. that's just one of the things. could this
. >> and the federal law called the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton. it says the federal government will recognize only conventional marriages, meaning no federal benefits in states where same-sex marriage is already equal. in the court did strike the law down, states would not be required to permit same-sex marriages but the federal government would have to recognize them where they're legal. craig, back to you. >> pete williams in washington. thanks so much for...
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. >> reporter: and the white house advisers were spinning a bush debate victory, they were on the defensive today about the president's demeanor last night. the television coverage, he appeared at times irritated, dismissive, frustrated by his challenger. >> he's always been a president and a person who wears his emotion on his sleeve. >> reporter: if some in the white house thought it would put this race out of reach, a reality check today. one senior adviser said no one would put the race way in one night. >> this is not who went on with win the eventual election but about who won the first debate. when a sitting president is facing his challenger. in 2004 when the incumbent president george w. bush lost badly to his challenger that year, that pushed the tally for incumbent presidents trying to win first debates against their challengers to 1-5. one win, five losses. in the six times that we had done it before we did it last night. that's the sum total of our american president of putting sitting presidents up against challengers in their first tv debates. that was the record for incumben
. >> reporter: and the white house advisers were spinning a bush debate victory, they were on the defensive today about the president's demeanor last night. the television coverage, he appeared at times irritated, dismissive, frustrated by his challenger. >> he's always been a president and a person who wears his emotion on his sleeve. >> reporter: if some in the white house thought it would put this race out of reach, a reality check today. one senior adviser said no one...
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well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. here is a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle sfor the senate? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthca
well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. here is a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the...
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>> they did put out a spokesman in defense of ambassador -- statement in defense of ambassador susan rice yesterday. it stems from a couple of sundays ago. she was on some of the sunday shows, including "meet the press" where she gave that explanation that this protest in benghazi started off as a protest against an american installation there, about that anti-islam video that denigrated the prophet mohammed and then spontaneo spontaneously turned into something more and may have included elements of more organized elements. and that's something that republicans say that susan rice intentionally lied about, the spokesman saying last night from the white house, the administration has -- thinks that susan rice has done an extraordinary job. it was not her personal opinion that she was putting forth on those sunday shows. >> all right. mike viqueira. thank you very much for that. important story this morning. >>> to front page politics new this morning, mitt romney says he's looking forward to the upcoming presidential debates, first one's on wednesday. >> i think it will be a good chan
>> they did put out a spokesman in defense of ambassador -- statement in defense of ambassador susan rice yesterday. it stems from a couple of sundays ago. she was on some of the sunday shows, including "meet the press" where she gave that explanation that this protest in benghazi started off as a protest against an american installation there, about that anti-islam video that denigrated the prophet mohammed and then spontaneo spontaneously turned into something more and may...